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c/electricians•michael895michael895•2mo ago

Just finished a job where the homeowner insisted on using those cheap push-in connectors instead of wire nuts

I told him straight up that a proper wire nut from Ideal or Wago is way safer for a solid connection... he had a box of the no-name push-ins from a big box store. After I showed him how the cheap ones can overheat and fail, especially on a 20-amp kitchen circuit, he finally let me do it right. Anyone else run into this and have a good way to explain it to customers?
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spencer664
spencer6642mo ago
Those push in connectors are listed for use and they wouldn't sell them if they weren't safe. I've used them for years on small jobs without a single call back. A wire nut can be put on wrong just as easy if you don't twist it tight. The real issue is overloading a circuit, not the connector itself.
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nina_sullivan61
Yeah but spencer664, just because something is listed doesn't mean it's the best choice for a solid connection. I've seen those push-ins fail on solid wire when there's any vibration, they just work loose over time. A properly twisted wire nut with a good tug test is a more reliable mechanical connection, period.
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danielwhite
Honestly I read somewhere that a lot of those cheap push-in connectors don't even meet the UL standards they claim. There was an electrician's forum where a guy tested like five different no-name brands and only one of them actually held the wire tight after a heat cycle. The problem is the spring inside is made from garbage metal that loses tension when it gets hot, so on a kitchen circuit where you're pulling 15 amps for a while it just loosens up. That's why I stick with Wago or the really good push-ins that actually have a decent spring mechanism, not the buck-a-pack ones.
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